Elephant Plains is our only problem left, although we are still some way off to getting it back - no ETA yet
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Did anyone think the male lion that came at dusk to NK today, 08/04/08, was being harassed by the landies or seemed distressed by them? To me he seemed pretty relaxed and had more interest in the prey alarm calls than the landies.

If he was at all disturbed by them, I believe he would have disappeared into the bush in one split second. Just ask a hyena how fast those big boys can move when they are irritated. LOL

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Campbell, thank you for your informative response. I haven't viewed any other African sights, but I can sense that the NK staff are very caring and sensitive to the animals. I trust your integrity - you have my "seal of approval"!

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If it was cruel to the animals then they would stop driving around and viewing them lions dnt care most of the time they sleep i very much doubt it felt horrassed if it did it would of attacked or warned the jeep away it looks fine Smiling

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katja wrote:
The negative comments were made on other Internet forums, not here on Africam.

Aah okay!! and for obvious reasons they could not post their comment there comprehende Smiling

 

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I think that the people who complain also don't realize how incredibly sensitive the microphones (which we love and enjoy)   are. All they have to do is observe the actions of the animal, and know they could remove themselves very quickly if they were upset.

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Janine wrote:
Can some one point me in the right direction I could not find any negative NK comments re the lion sighting in the Africam chat threads

The negative comments were made on other internet forums, not here on Africam.  

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Nkorho Ranger wrote:

This is Penny2.  My husband and I have jut spent the past 3 days at Nkorho and must take issue with the comments made about the lion sighting last night.  We have actually commented a few times on how relaxed the animals have been with the vehicles and spotlights around them and the same applies to the male lion last night.  Its brother/friend was still at the buffalo kill site and it was just in a hurry to get back to him.  We have been here many times before and our experience has always been that the rangers are very professional and won't shine spotlights on non-nocturnal animals.  They also respect and don't pressurise the nocturnal game. The comments made were totally unjustified.

 

Can some one point me in the right direction I could not find any negative NK comments re the lion sighting in the Africam chat threads I did see some on another web site's thread. It seems to me that us Africamer posters are all of like mind on this subject.

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I missed the lion and the leopard too, had a very busy few days so hadn't visited the site.

Just viewed the wonderful video's that I think it was Aquilla made and I have to say that the lion didn't seem too phased at all by the people, maybe just a little more alert. 

 All animals wild or domestic have a natural instinct to remove themselves from situations that bother them. Think how your pet dog/cat acts when kids are around - it slinks off to somewhere it wont get bothered by them.

The lion would have done the same too don't you think, he could have been long gone before the landies had got to the waterhole as he would have heard/smelt or seen them cominga long way off. An if not he would certainly left pretty much as soon as they arrived and switched on the spotlights. 

The lion didn't though instead he stayed to drink, wandered off to investigate the hyenea? calls and then come back to the same spot close to the landies to drink again. He seemed pretty much relaxed yet alert

 

I think what I can say though is initially when you see the video it does look like a very invasive situation. That was my first thought as a person whose never had experiance of a game drive or anything like that. I think that comes from the combination of the loud engine sounds, the people talking and the spot light.

You can see past that though once you notice the lions behaviour and like you all say there are rules and regulations that have to be abided by and the majority of the animals are used to a human presances and are alright with it as they are not a threat - maybe a minor annoyance like a fly or a tick hehe. 

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 I saw nothing that would constitute harrasment of the Lion. He seemed pretty relaxed  by the whole thing.

I will admit that when I first joined,  the lights on the animals and the close proximity of the vehichles did bother me. Probably bothered me more than it bothered the animals.  But I stayed and I learned. I learned that the tourist industry has done far more for the conservation of the wildlife of Africa than many of us realize. 

 I think one of the first things people learn about the animals we see on the cams, is that this is not a zoo.  Sure some of them may become frustrated when they discover that a side of beef and baskets of fruit and vegetables are not scattered about to attract the animals in range of the camera for their viewing pleasure . But the ones that stay,they stay to learn. And learning about the role of tourism is part of the process. Learning that man must learn to live side by side with these amazing animals  is part of the process. And if taking tourist out to see these animals in the wild , in their world, means shining a light on them rather than aiming a gun ..then I am all for it.

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Aquila plain and simple, nope

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i watched the cats and jeeps many times

as i watch many africa sites -

the animals have grown up since birth with jeeps and touirst

the only answer to some people concerns with the lights would

be for all the jeeps to be equipped with red filters over thier

head lights and the use of red filters on thier spot lights

i have used red filters on my spotlight for over 30 years

i have used light on cats - coyote -wolves elk- deer

when you shine light on them with red filter they

have no reaction to the light - it dosent illuminate the eyes

 

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