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Lions hunting ellies - moved from Wateringhole

If I should be posting this elsewhere, feel free to move it!

Have any of you been watching the Planet Earth documentary on the Discovery Channel? I am absolutely hooked but last night I saw something I never in my lifetime thought I'd see...a pride of lions taking down a full grown elephant!!! I couldn't BELIEVE it! :shock:

I usually route for the predator because of how hard it must be to have to hunt for food when all we have to do is go shopping or to the fridge, but this time I just couldn't Sad

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I posted the link ages ago lol it was some spectacular footage i love planet earth and they have bought some stunning footage shame about the elly but it made front page news in britain!

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I watched the program, and found it somewhat difficult to watch, but I think it is because we have, for the last number of years, seen the population of elephants decline rapidly and we want to root for it to continue to survive. Likewise, with the elephants long life and its often human-like personality and characteristics, we tend to want the elephant to always be in the winners circle so to speak. I have even seen documentaries that state that the elephant is one of the few animals that hasn't got an enemy in the wild as even all the big cats give them a wide birth.

That said, I have seen lions take down young elephants if it has become separated from the herd and I have also seen others, who were either very old, sick, etc., taken down as well.

As gruesome has some kills are in the wild, it is the way of life there. Herbavores eat herbs, while carnivores eat herbavores. It is indeed the circle of life.

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Thanks BigFrank, your tale gave me goosebumps!

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Im in the group,that has no problem watching kills,infact its what I paid to see(among other things of course). On the last day of my first trip to South Africa,we began tracking Lions. Soon a thunderous noise was heard,and a herd of several hundred Cape Buffalo emergred from the bush,some stopping only feet from us b4 continuing onward. Up the road a young buffalo stumbles and goes down. It got to its feet,and while it tried to regain its sensibilities,2 adult Lions came up over the hill behind it. We moved the Landi and came to rest intime to view one lion go for the throat of the 5 month old Buffalo while the other clamped its mouth shut. The rest of the pride arrived quickly,and while a struggle ensued,it was all natural..all part of the life cycle of the bush and exactly what Id seen on Wild Kingdom and later National Georgraphic. To see it live was both a thrill and a privelidge. To me any suffering on the part of the Buffalo was not comparable to a kill I saw right in the camp....right at the bar infact. A frog was on the outside wall of the bamboo covered storage area behind the bar. Inside the bamboo wall was a Brown House Snake. Through the bamboo,the snake had ahold of the frog by only the feet. Painfully slowly the snake swallowed more and more of the frog,over a period which seemed interminable. The entire time the frog made a noise that was blood curdling. It screamed the whole time,I had no clue the frog could make such a noise,but together with guests and staff,we watched as the snake swallowed its meal. After what must have been 20minutes the snake had swallowed enough that the frog quit screaming and was eventually gone from site. By far the frog which most certainly none of us felt much for b4 hand was much more gruesome then seeing the young Buffalo taken.

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Afternoon folks!

"shelbelle33" wrote:
I think its only people that watch these sorts of cams and programmes and that live with or have seen it truely understand that it is natures way. I know it is sickening to see and horrendus but just like us animal have to eat. but im not talking about us eating or killing the wildlife just animal killing animals

I grew up watching nature shows from a very young age... never had a problem watching the animals kill each other. The alternative (slow starvation) was a bit terrible to contemplate. I still freak out a little when I find a carcass while hiking though (and not just because the predator might be stalking me) Smiling

I see two major challenges to humans posed by the natural order. One is reconciling the objective understanding "this is nature's way" with the immediacy of knowing a prey animal personally (having watched it, followed its actions). we react the same way we would if a human we knew got attacked...

The other is thinking that humans are a kind of animal, and we also eat meat (unless we're vegetarian, but that's an individual choice)... doesn't that mean we're part of this natural order? I'm not sure we're built to be able to reconcile that one. That's coming a ltitle too close to contemplating the inevitability of one's own death.

overly deep thoughts for a monday afternoon!

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"KeeKee" wrote:
Well I know where that chicken on my plate came from but even as a child on a farm I would NOT watch daddy do what was necessary for me to have the chicken or beef.

I'm going for the sound being Ellie or Rhino

I know. I lived on a farm when i was a child too. and no child should have to witness that or adult really, but all im trying to say is that some people over here think animals should be in a zoo and fed by humans. thats what i'm really getting at.

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Well I know where that chicken on my plate came from but even as a child on a farm I would NOT watch daddy do what was necessary for me to have the chicken or beef.

I'm going for the sound being Ellie or Rhino

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"KeeKee" wrote:
I just clicked on the link above then clicked another link there and didnt finish the video. I know these things happen thats all I need to know.

that vid cause uproar over here and people askwhy didn't they do anything to stop it.

I know many of the reserves say they won't intervene with nature but will if harm is caused by man.

I think its only people that watch these sorts of cams and programmes and that live with or have seen it truely understand that it is natures way. I know it is sickening to see and horrendus but just like us animal have to eat. but im not talking about us eating or killing the wildlife just animal killing animals

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I think the vid is fine. It belongs as it is real, the way is really is in life. If I worked on a reserve I would learn to let life happen.

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"shelbelle33" wrote:
"KeeKee" wrote:
I just clicked on the link above then clicked another link there and didnt finish the video. I know these things happen thats all I need to know.

that vid cause uproar over here and people askwhy didn't they do anything to stop it.

I know many of the reserves say they won't intervene with nature but will if harm is caused by man.

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