Africam birds...ID

No2 Burchell's Glossy- Starling / Lamprotornis australis

No 3 Crested Francolin - Peliperdix sephaena

Maybe this can help more

Hi

The bird in the second picture is a Blue Starling. The first is a Ring Neck Dove (don't know another name for it - am sure there is one!!)

hi leigh..nice to see you here..
i was thinking Glossy Starling or Cape? Starling.? one of those two has a reddish eye..am i thinking correctly on this? lol I am not a birder, just really like them.
thanks for your ID. The dove that i have seen most on the cams was the 'emerald spotted', which i think has a new name now? I also have seen the Namauqua. Wow. too early here, forgive my spelling errors and names.
oh, in my Kruger map? where it lists all the birds and animals in this general area? this mark on the back of it's neck? might it be the Cape Turtle Dove?

Happy Camming..

E.

No 4 - Verreaux's Eagle-Owl or Giant Eagle Owl - Bubo lacteus

Some more birds...if someone can tell the formal and scientific names...maybe we can make a library...Just an idea....

No 5 ...Red-billed Hornbill - Tockus erythrorhynchus

I hope to a better pic soon

No 6 ?????????

My suggestion is a Himantopus himantopus-stilt
All the others believe it is a common Green shank..
But I have never seen until now a greenshank with so black wings...(maybe becouse it is a winter visitor here) and a straight bill
It's up on your choise too

No 7....EGYPTIAN GOOSE - Alopochen aegyptiacus (saved by Elaine)

What about the No 3????

I wrote names and suggestions on the posts above ..under or above the pictures, so check again.....

As I know nothing about african birds.....if someone has a different opinion ...it would be important to correct me...

and thanks all who tried or will try to help ....as I hope we will see more birds

(and sorry Elaine and Sunbird for I didnt thank you before )

For names I use the checklist -Avibase of Birdlife international
http://www.bsc-eoc.org/avibase/avibase.jsp?region=za&pg=checklist&list=clements
and for photos mainly the mangoverde
http://www.mangoverde.com/birdsound/index.html

It is quite difficult to say as the pic is not clear - but both the Greater Blue eared and the Cape Glossy starling have shorter tails than Burchells (your pic shows a long tail) - and both of their suggestions have a bright yellow eye, which is not obvious in the pic. There is no suggestion either of the distintive row of spots on the wing of the Blue-eared Starling

I stick by my opinion that it is a Burchells Starling and not Elaine's Cape Glossy or Sunbird's Blue-eared...

I believe that this bird (No 3) is actually a Crested Francolin (Francolinus sephaena) as I am sure that I detect a white stripe over it's eye, and 'spots' rather than 'arrows' on it's wing feathers - the coqui has 'arrow' markings and no stripe over the eye- but I stand to be corrected on this if there are any francolin experts out there? :roll:

Thank you Fanny & Tabs & all. I'm just learning about African birds & appreciate all the help you can give.
A BCer birder.

No 8 ...Saddle-billed Stork - Ephippiorhynchus senegalensis

Yes Tabs I can see the white stripe ...now ...and thanks about the spots and arrows ...I 'll go to search more pics later in web

cerinthe wrote:

fani wrote:

For names I use the checklist -Avibase of Birdlife international http://www.bsc-eoc.org/avibase/avibase.jsp?region=za&pg=checklist&list=clements and for photos mainly the mangoverde http://www.mangoverde.com/birdsound/index.html

Thanks for the sites Fani, just so you to get us the best ones.

Now we need a site with identification infos and maps...I 'm still searching about it...If anyone Know.... :roll:

No 9 - Water Thick-knee - Burhinus vermiculatus

thanks to "guest" who id it immediately after I sent pic on Nkorho Pan forum

Hi Fani,

I do not believe this to be a Black-Winged Stilt. The first give-away is that a BWS bill is much longer and more slender than that of the bird in the picture. The second is the neck of the bird that (mostly in the first picture) shows some colour whereas the neck of the BWS is brght white. Also the overall body shape seem too dumpy to be a BWS

What is it then? Well, that's the tricky part as waders are notoriously difficult to ID even with scopes and good pics. But Common Greenshank would be a possibility based on bird size, bill length and thickness and overall colourations. (Note what looks like a white shoulder patch in the second pic, the streaked greyish neck and what could be the pattern of grey with white feather edges on the back).

I'm not 100% sure it is a Common Greenshank, but it is definitely not a BWS.

I like Burchell's Glossy Starling for this bird. I checked the length of the wings beyond the body and the length of the tail. Tail is rougly same length as body and wings go beyond the body. For a Cape Glossy Starling the wings are shorter than the one in this pic and the tail is ummmmm say *half* the body length??? The Blue eared Starlign is similar to Cape glossy. My reference is Kenneth Newman's *birds of Southern Africa, Kruger National Park* )

Ranger Piet I can understand and maybe I would tell the same looking only at the first pic I have uploaded above...But snapshot mainly at the first picture changed the shape of the bird as it was moving...It looks 'fat' and as you say with a shorter neck and beak...but I saw it moving for enough time to be sure that it is a stilt... I couldn't take a clear pic becouse it was moving all time...As I have seen them (and greenshanks too )for years moving around at Greek wetlands I still believe that it was a stilt....Also Tringa nebularia havent got such a difference between black and white...It isnt so thin in shape (if I can say that maybe not the best word but it is difficult to find the right words in english) and its beak is upcurved (I always ID it from that ) ... Also look at the head of this bird...It 's smaller in relation with the body .... than the varius Tringa sp About neck I 'm just copying that from my book 'Male has crown and nape black in summer, white in winter....' I cant see any colour or spots in the front part of neck or chest
Maybe it is another bird that looks like a stilt as I dont know your birds in South Africa....but I'm sure it isnt a greenshank .

Here some more pics

Notice the neck at the second pic and the diference between black and white at the fourth
What you cant see in the pictures are the legs....

And sorry for my bad english .... :roll:

Lynty I think you and Tabs convised me ...It must be a Burchell;s Glossy Starling

I am sorry Fani, but I have to agree with Ranger Piet here - your bird is, in fact, a Greenshank.
Black Winged Stilts have distinctive red legs and the pictures that you have submitted clearly show that this bird does not!

When you look at your birding book for identifications do not forget to look at:
Colour of eyes and any markings around the eyes/face
Colour (and length) of legs
Any markings on the wings
Length of the tail/wings/bill
Colours/markings on the chest
Size, colour and shape (if available) of the feet
Shape of the head and bill
The Jizz of the bird..... the General (J) Impression (I) of the Shape (Z) and Size (Z)

Hi Fani,

Based onthe new pics you sentt could indeed be a BWS. Especially if you've seen it moving on the cam, you must be able to mke a better guess than me bsed on the first pics.

The g colour does seem a bit off though, but maybe that also is a camera/snapshot artefact as all the pics seem a bit washed out.

For my 5c worth:
1 - Cape Turtle Dove
2 - Burchell's Glossy Starling - tail is too long to be Greater blue-eared or Cape Glossy
3 - Crested Francolin - the pics arent that clear but I think the white stripe over the eye is confirmation.
4 - Verreaux's Eagle Owl
5 - Redbilled Hornbill
6 - Common Greenshank - I am not 100% certain, but sure it is not a Black Winged Stilt
7 - Egyptian Goose
other 7 - Saddlebilled Stork - I dont see a yellow wattle on the neck which would identify it as a male, but the bird isnt looking straight at the camera.
8 - Water Thick-knee

Scops and Barn Owl calling in the background right now as well as some rather irritated baboon.

Love this site.

Landi

bwstilt (picture not mine but from my region this summer

See the shape

~~ MANY THANKS FOR THE POST FANI ~~~ KEEP THEM COMMING I ENJOY THEM WITH MY FIRST CUP OF COFFEE IN THE MORNING -

kru-kab *bowser b.c. wrote:

~~ MANY THANKS FOR THE POST FANI ~~~ KEEP THEM COMMING I ENJOY THEM WITH MY FIRST CUP OF COFFEE IN THE MORNING -

Look at the other thread too Krukab ...Nkorho Pan Cam Pics

...And now LOL!!! I think I found the Common Greenshank :idea:
It was paler than the other, bill upcurved and all its shape and behaviour reminded of a Tringa sp

But after that I m not sure more what I saw the previous day...mainly when I discovered that the same day I saw and saved pics of a stilt on ng cam (not good but here colours are ovious)...I hope the first impression was right and this above is a different individual !!!
Not easy to ID from those pics