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2nd November 2007

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I hear what you're saying Sherran...I was thinking that ellies are very dependent upon the herd to learn and mature socially....I guess I was thinking more along those lines...

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Guess you mis-understood,ex, or I didn't convey well enough.  I don't think this particular ellie was at this zoo at the time we were there or that she even spent 25 yrs. in this particular zoo.  But, yeah, I know what you're saying...they might look happy there.  It's us who envision them living free.  I, honestly, have to over-look that when I visit a zoo.  6 yrs. ago when we went back to Alaska, we drove thru one of those drive-thru open reserves where the animals are fenced.  My sister-in-law hated it.  Yes, they were more free than a caged animal, but to her the fences did the same as bars would.

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That is very very sad Sherron....all her life in a zoo...

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I've been to that zoo, ex...back in '85.  I don't recall an ellie, she hadn't been born yet...but, remember the raffie that seemed so out of place.

And, LOL...yeah guess that's why the vets are along for the trip...to stop that from happening.

ETA:  Oh, oh...Just did the math...she would have been 3. 

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Good news for the ellie!  She'll be much happier!

Heading home from work here.  Happy camming to you all & have a great weekend!  Hope to get on here off & on!

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An elephant in Alaska!!!!  That's awful....glad she is being moved and hoping she makes it.   Can you imagine an ellie's trumpet in the confines of a plane....wow!!!

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Thanks for the WD videos, Sag.  I was bumped off right before Rexon found them and couldn't get on the forum.  Thanks to Lily who sent me pics, too.  You guys are the bestest! Smile

Here's something I received in a email this morning:  The author titled it Operation Dumbo Drop?.  His son sent to him and is military...so, guess that's why the title.

Subject: Operation Dumbo Drop? Air Force about to move African elephant from Alaska to Calif.
BY: Mike Carney , USA Today
11/02/2007
Alaska's only elephant is coming in from the cold. Maggie, a 25-year-old African elephant, will be flown today from The Alaska Zoo to the Performing Animal Welfare Society in balmy California. After coming under fire from critics who complained about the animal's poor quality of life, the zoo spent $100,000 on a treadmill for the 8,000-pound elephant, but she wouldn't use the machine and her exercise was limited to a small enclosure outside the elephant house.

They zoo eventually agreed to move her to California.
"She's definitely going first class," Alaska Zoo spokeswoman Eileen Floyd tells the Anchorage Daily News.
Handlers have warned the crew of the C-17 transport plane that they're likely to hear Maggie trumpeting and banging her head during the trip. To calm her nerves, the transport team, which includes veterinarians, will have some of her favorite toys on board the plane.

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sagresta wrote:

Pam, did you see the Wild Dogs?

If Not click below:

WD #1

WD #2

WOW great video's of the wild dogs. This sure explains why we are seeing them over at our waterhole. Amazing dogs. Just thought I'd pop in and see what goes on in this thread. Hard to keep up to all of this as there are so many sites. Sagresta if your the one who captured the dogs on here, way to go girl.

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Lady's Mom wrote:

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We are so priveledged to see the Wild Dogs.

Ex.....I feel privileged to see ANY of this. I will be forever grateful to the friend who gave me the link to AfriCam...and this whole other world.

My son sent it to me and that's the best present I've ever had.  I feel so sad that some of the critters that I see may not be around for future generations....so many have been lost. 

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ex-centric wrote:
We are so priveledged to see the Wild Dogs. 

Ex.....I feel privileged to see ANY of this.  I will be forever grateful to the friend who gave me the link to AfriCam...and this whole other world.

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